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  1. Thanks Sven! Your info is always helpful. I personally went with micron. Micron I feel has a much wider moat and reserve cashflow.

  2. I can’t make my mind up for Intel. Semiconductor industry is on downswing of their super long cycle. Chips can act as commodities. Better buy when chips price goes down. Is very capital intensive industry and higher rates means more risk.

  3. Been buying since mid 7/21. Down 41%. Last purchase was back at $35. Likely to buy more, but in smaller purchases for a while since this slump in price could easily last through most of 2023.

    P/B is near 1, forward P/E about 11, +5% dividend yield. I like this. I’m not convinced the div is safe, but I believe no cut is most likely. But also no raise for years.

    Current plan is to keep averaging, hold at least until 3 years after new US Fab’s impact on top and bottom lines become clear. Then, hopefully the decision will be to keep Intel as a life long income producing asset that I bought on the cheap while uncertainty was high.

    1. I’m in the same boat as you. Bought heavy at $35, now I’m averaging in every two weeks to lower my cost basis. I like the yield, the value, and the government money they’re receiving to build a foundry.
      Intel is a long term value play!

  4. I don’t think Intel’s massive capital expenditures on new foundries will provide a good return in the short term because all the other chip companies are building factories. The market will be flooded with very low priced chips and I think the good returns will only come when demand catches up with supply. Nature of a very cyclical industry! That said – if you have a long term time horizon, these prices look very interesting

  5. The gap with AMD has been reduced a lot with new CPU series, but it may need months/years to pay off….let’s see how AMD move now

  6. We can all read the comments, and the opinions around Intel are all the same for more than a year now. You should bring on the channel an engineer or some other product expert to speak about the topic, that would really bring some value

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  8. Thanks for the video. I think that if they drop the dividend you will see a bit of a sell off then will be the time to buy if your thesis is still good. If not then pass for a while. Personally I’m 75% cash right now. I have a few tracker shares for things I’ll buy back later but the only stock I’m holding more than one share of currently is GOOG

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  12. When Gelsinger said “we need the chip act to go through” I was out based on that comment alone. I still believe they will do well in 2025 but they need to make it to 2025.

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  14. Might repeat what I wrote before, but this is the perfect time to continue DCAing. I am not at all worried about 2023/2024 when it comes to Intel simply because I have a bigger time horizon. No offence, but if anyone is into these short term gambles, he/she is not an investor.

    Intel will recover eventually, we just do not know when exactly. Could be 2025 or 2030, but who cares if investments are done with a time horizon of say at least 10 years. In such scenarios, a recession like the one we experience right now is a blessing: Compound, compound, compound.

  15. What’s the near-term worst-case scenario, aka risk at this price? Did I miss that in the two recent Intel videos? Assuming the market wants a 5% yield, if the cycle gets worse (seems likely with rates) and they cut the div in half, does the stock get cut in half? What would be the risk at ~$13.50, with a (lower in cash terms) 5% dividend? I don’t think book value will save the price short-term if results get worse. It’s like the posterchild for capex-intensive industry. How much is the old book value assets really worth?

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